Always ------ Grasping When piece grasped, eveyrone agrees "somehow" what it was Grasping is reflected without change in location, everywhere "Mostly" people agree on where things are Movement When a player who can see actual location moves Movement is still hidden until the visibility changes When a player who cannot see, moves Piece jumps to where they think it is, actual location is then visible until they release it Quacks bag - neat ----------------- Player sees: number of tokens SVGs of blanks at *calculated* locations laid out predictably When piece added to bag, ??? no knowledge of which is which - replaced by blank What even are actual locations ??? Others see: nothing Quacks bag - messy ------------------ Player sees: number of tokens SVGs of blanks at actual locations in places the player left them but shuffled When piece added to bag, locations preserved, actual IDs permuted no knowledge of which is which - replaced by blank Others see: nothing Magic "stopping" token is different to player but still invisible to others. Has a different "back". Pick-up deck ------------ Everyone sees: a pile of cards SVGs of backs at actual locations backs When shuffle occurs, visible ids do not change, but no knowledge of which is which actual IDs are permuted; and locations are reverse-permuted can be moved about, everyone agrees on locations everyone's actual<->visible mapping permuted the same way Hand ---- Player sees: cards laid out as they like SVGs of fronts at actual locations faces Others see: number of cards SVGs of backs at calculated locations laid out predictably, sorted in groups according to back When card added, set of visible ids does not change, nor does no knowledge of which is which their ordering in the calculated view but agree on the layout But actual<->visible mapping is permuted (for everyone other2 thais the player, the same way) Card face down eg from player's hand ------------------------------------ Everyone sees: card back SVG of back at actual location, by normal rules only know what it is from historical information IDs are not messed around with Quacks committed token ---------------------- People see the same things as for a bag This is a separate bag with a separate name You can move things from this to another bag. "Took something out" "put something in ..." It can be un-blinded by "emptying" - a thing bags can do